After commenting on Bradye’s post about dreams I was still excited about dreams. This explains the subject of this post.
She said the Greeks noted how a person’s wild desires came out during sleep. I translated their words into our more modern terms and talked about a bit of what I’ve concluded about dreaming after some recent studying I’ve done.
Dreams are crazy.
I wanted to start more conversation about them since they’re a big interest of mine. Maybe it’s wrong of me to assume that anyone will comment more than 4 times total, but just in case someone gets interested I’ll try to make things entertaining.
I think I’d like to make a little case for Plato vs. Aristotle in view of happiness. However, I do not promise exemplary organization or clarity, just sound reason(hopefully).
When we dream, our mind focuses on different subjects in order to satisfy the id, according to what we have been thinking about or if you will, fixated on. There actually is a difference between these. Freud uses childhood fixations in his dream interpretation, where as I would believe in “smaller” desires. However, I won’t go much into that. So our fixations make our ids long and burn for something, which our egos squash for practical purposes. Our ego doesn’t make us happy, our id does. I do not mean that the only happiness is pleasure gratification, just that fulfilling the id makes us happy. If we accept that, then we accept that we have an appetitive nature to some extent. When we accept that, we see that Aristotle’s view that happiness really comes from fulfilling our purpose(paraphrased) isn’t complete. I do think that fulfilling purpose brings happiness, but to say that it is the only source? I say Nay.
Suppose you have severe health problems, including insomnia, arthritis, dysentery, and how about herpes(why not). You live your life morally, raise kids, succeed at work, marry successfully and happily, etc. However, every day you hurt when you move. You constantly ache, you know that you’re stuck with illnesses chronically. Are you happy? No. You’re happy that you’ve done many great things, but you’re still miserable because you’re always in pain. Even though I would argue that the happiness of doing the things I listed above is superior to the happiness of physical health, I still think pain can prevent happiness. The example could be changed many ways, but the point is really all that matters. Part of our happiness comes from our physical appetites, our appetitive nature.
Therefore, Plato’s view of happiness is more complete than Aristotles’ view is.
So I’d say I’ve made a post now, but I want to talk about dreams, and as I have the time thanks to all this glorious snow, I shall.
The main thing I focused on the last few months while researching dreaming was dream vividness. It appears that there is a wide range in reported vividness. Some people, like me, have very poor dream vividness. They report vague ideas, concept, settings, details, but more rare amounts of color, edges, etc. Usually in my dreams I may know what I’m doing, who I’m talking to, but It’s not really that clear. I’ll know I’m looking at a neighborhood, and that I can see stars, lights, a sign, houses, a street, cars, etc., and I might know what colors they are, but I can’t really see the colors. And no, I’m not colorblind or anything. Actually, I guess I’ll go into my personal stuff here for comparison to anyone else who might comment about theirs. My health is sub-par, I have major trouble sleeping, I have serious neck pain, some back pain and curvature problems, I have some bone problems. I also have hereditary tinnitus.(just that lucky I guess). I’ll let you look that up yourself. I can’t think of anything else that would significantly affect my sleep other than my uvulitis. Personally, I usually remember at least 2 dreams per night. Right now I remember hundreds of my dreams, all the way back to when I was in kindergarten. Oh yeah, that reminds me, I also have hyponogogic hallucinations, which were actually post-sleep as well when I was a child. I often dream about some adventure, some mission, usually silly and without actual importance. Maybe someone is trying to kill me, or I’m being chased. Sometimes my friend and I have to escape from some weird place. Some of my dreams are very long, perhaps 15 minutes straight.(time isn’t too easy to understand for dreams vs. reality), others are just a few seconds long though, short flashes. Sometimes my dreams will continue after non rem cycles, and some nights I’ll have repeat dreams. I’ve had a few dreams dozens of times, and occasionally I can change them willfully. I have many racing or flying dreams as well. I’m not exactly afraid of snakes, just cautious, but in my dreams snakes are always terrifying. About a third of all my nightmares have snakes in them, a ton of them.(Of course all venomous and unrealistically aggressive, like from “Snakes on a Plane”) I have found that I have huge cycles, ones lasting weeks, months, and years. As a kid my dreams were different than they are now, during vacation my dreams are different than when I’m in school, etc. I’ve had actual pain in a couple nightmares and been unable to wake up. I can’t think of much more to include in this, and I feel like I’m just going on and on. Other people have reported that their dreams are virtually indistinguishable from wakefulness. I can’t imagine dreams being that real. I don’t know if I’ve ever smelled anything in a dream, but I would love to someday if possible. Maybe some of you have vivid dreams…
So, I hope a few people will comment about that school stuff, and then also all about their dreams. Maybe about your health, thought patterns, most memorable dreams, dream vividness, how many dreams you can remember, characters, mood, settings, etc. Let it all out peeps! We’re psychology students, I think we should be comfortable sharing our dreams(I realize that’s not quite right, but I’m on to something right?)
You know, I think we should have more about this. I’d be ALL for professor McAnulty and Professor Beck co-leading a special interest class on dreams this Fall or next Spring. Anybody else think you’d want to take that?? Let ’em know. Maybe we could do class projects where we studied our dreams and compared them for research. Maybe we could actually grow during the class and learn about ourselves through sharing and analyzing our dreams, our goals and desires. And maybe…I don’t know, maybe we’ll……learn to play this game like men.
Brady Campbell on Freud
10:58 pm, 05.02.11
I think that dream symbolism exists, and that it is so complicated that our understanding is miniscule. This last sentence implies my thoughts on Freud.
Brady Campbell on Thoughts on Carl Rogers Theory
10:55 pm, 05.02.11
I was much more interested when we went over Rogers because he seems to not only be refreshing, but correct in his theory.(and if not, then at least more-so than Freud)
Brady Campbell on Balancing Faith and Practice
10:54 pm, 05.02.11
I think with logic and raising self-esteem.
Brady Campbell on Carl Rogers was right on the money
10:52 pm, 05.02.11
I’m glad to read your post. I do think Carl Rogers is pretty much at the top.
Brady Campbell on more on free will and the like
11:36 pm, 03.21.11
I re-visisted the page and discovered that I typo-ed…
(insert ashamed face here)
Brady Campbell on Religion: Pre-determined, or Personal Decision?
9:19 pm, 03.21.11
I definitely think the strength of genetic cause of religion is off.
I don’t think it makes sense to place reason, faith, and preference out of reach of an individual’s choice. I think choice is the driving force of the world, and it just wouldn’t stand to reason that choice isn’t responsible for an outcome.
It truly disturbs me to think that we don’t have control of our actions. It doesn’t worry me, because I don’t think it is any more plausible than a laughable theory, but it certainly bothers me that it could be taken so seriously.
I still need to study more of the old testament in depth.
Brady Campbell on Facial Features and Aggression
8:56 pm, 03.21.11
I thought the video was very interesting as well.
Here are some interesting relations.
http://47xxy.com/Hermes/Testosterone%20levels%20in%20healthy%20men%20and%20the%20relation%20to.pdf
http://www.springerlink.com/content/h09nq1nt74361885/
http://www.flyfishingdevon.co.uk/salmon/year2/aggression/aggression.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone
It would be pretty interesting to do a study in this area!
I hypothesize that mental disturbance is not causally related to aggression. Though, perhaps a significant correlation could exist?
Aside, maybe I’m partly curious because this is how I’m being judged.
Brady Campbell on Intelligence Testing
8:41 pm, 03.21.11
It is a pity that it is used ALONE. It is not a poor indicator of common knowledge, spatial, etc, but does not measure many other intelligences, such as emotional, conversational, artistic, etc.
I consider myself a futurist because whenever I think about the past(very frequently in this class) I think about how things were, and how things should be-and that leads me to think of our own time as in the past. Sometimes I wonder how many important things haven’t been done, especially in psychology.(such as integration of religion and sociology in common study, a system of care of psychologically disturbed patients, and others.
Back to the test…
I wish that Binet and Simon had gone further with their work. I see so much disparity between the current use of the common perception of intelligence and the truth that I hope psychology grows in this area, and soon.
Brady Campbell on more on free will and the like
12:10 am, 03.22.11
I think that makes great sense entirely! The words you used aren’t very defensible, at least as far as scientific theories go, but I think there is a way to word it. I am not an eloquent man, or I would attempt it myself, but perhaps someone else has/will.
Brady Campbell on Jean Jacques Rousseau says what?
11:15 pm, 02.21.11
I wish there were a “like” button on here, because I would have used it.
Surely the entire field of psychology needs an overhaul, especially in rehabilitation(though this word doesn’t actually work here if people aren’t being restored, but instead guided).