Rogerian Thoughts and Views
Carl Rogers was a very complex man who provided a lot of great insight into the psychology world. His work covers such a broad spectrum and speaks to so many topics that it is very hard to pin point exactly what stage his ideas align best with. I think when you take a look at Roger’s view on personality and the idea of an actualizing tendency his ideas align best with creation. He believes that humans are born with a innate drive toward self-actualization. Self-actualizaion is essentially the realization and or fulfillment of one’s full potential. So who gave these people there potential? Who gave humans the ability to realize that there is something they are “destined” for? There must be a creator. There has to be a higher power who appointed each individual with the ability to do certain things and to reach a certain level in their achievements. I believe that Roger’s ideas of self-actualization, and other’s similar ideas, all point towards an all powerful creator who is overseeing the whole process.
On the other hand, I think when we take a look at some of Roger’s other ideas about personality, we will see more of a correlation between the Fall. Rogers talks of how people have this internal desire and need for positive regard. People need to feel accepted, loved and desired by the people around them. But through a Christian perspective this is exactly what we are called not to do. We are told to look for our fulfillment through Christ and Christ alone. We are not called to be a part of the world, just in it. So as soon as humans begin to loo for fulfillment and acceptance from the people around them, that is when we fall. We become so focused on the positive regard from others that we lose sight of who we are meant to be. We lose sight of who Christ has created us to be because we are too concerned with pleasing others that we will change our attitudes to fit what is most acceptable. Carl Rogers has many great ideas that I think can be attributed to both the ideas of Creation and the Fall.
Nicole Nelson on Frankl and Redemption
11:49 pm, 12.04.13
Taylor,
I definitely agree with you a bout Frankl and redemption. It is interesting to look at a man like him, who has been through so much in his life, and still has a positive view on life. And than to compare him to other psychologists who maybe have had an easier life, but look at the world in such a negative light. I wonder why that is..But I like your comparison with turning the other cheek. Because essentially that’s exactly what Frankl had to do in order to move on with his life. Great post!
Nicole Nelson on Viktor Frankl
11:47 pm, 12.04.13
Matt,
I really like how you see the bright side of Frankl. Obviously he had a very tough life, and it would be very easy to associate his ideas with the Fall, since he experienced so much of the evil of man throughout his life. I think it is great that not only was he able to come out of his circumstances and make something of himself, but that people like you are able to recognize the depth of his thoughts and feelings. Great post!
Nicole Nelson on Ivan Pavlov & Conditioned Reflex
1:40 pm, 11.17.13
Lindsay,
I really like how you related Pavlov’s ideas to the trickery of modern day advertising. It was a very interesting idea that I would not have thought of. But I completely agree! I like how you talk about the Fall having to do with “innate human instincts that we have trouble controlling.” I agree to a point. Yes, we are naturally born into sin, we are sinful creatures. But at the same time, Eve chose to eat the fruit. Yes, she had the internal sinful desire to eat the fruit, and she had trouble suppressing these “bad” thoughts. But at the same time, I think that sin, and thus the Fall do involve conscious control of sinful behaviors. I know personally, there are many times when I am completely aware of the sin in my life. But as you postulate, there are also times when it is innate and I am barely aware of it. Sin is such an interesting concept in relation to the Fall and psychology in general. Great post!
Nicole Nelson on Hull's hand in history
1:35 pm, 11.17.13
Jacey,
I loved how you focused not only on Hull’s ideas to describe which category he fit into, but you also took a look at his life and circumstances. I think that is very interesting because I have always only looked at the thoughts and ideas of people, and I have neglected to take a look at their lives, which very likely shaped many of their ideas. It is interesting to me that someone’s life who so very much resembles the fall, can come up with ideas that support creation. That must take a special kind of human being, to be able to rise from their own ashes, and say, “just because I was handed some difficulties doesn’t mean I’m going to let it define my life.” I think we should all take a page out of Hull’s book and strive to do more with our lives than just settle. As always, great post!
Nicole Nelson on
1:32 pm, 11.17.13
Anna,
I really loved your post! I love how you associate behaviorism with redemption. I completely agree, I love the idea that we can use psychology to help mend the brokenness of a generation. And I think when you combine God in with that behavioral therapy there is no saying how many people you can heal, and start sending on the path towards eternal redemption. I also love how you talk about changing old habits. Because as humans sin is naturally one of our bad, old habits, and so many people I think get stuck in this rut of believing they aren’t able to rid themselves of sin, thus they aren’t worthy of God’s time. But I think that’s so wrong! Redemption proves that! We are able to remove ourselves from our natural tendencies and draw closer to the Lord! Great post!
Nicole Nelson on William James' Fall
10:37 am, 11.03.13
Lindsay,
Your post was very interesting. I think William James is a very interesting man, and he has a lot of great ideas that he has contributed to modern day psychology. I agree with your classification of him and the Fall, in some aspects. Do you think that accepting the idea of Free Will leads to a strong connection with the Fall? Because essentially if there is free will, than humans are able to chose the path they take, and they are able to chose the path of God or the path of the Fall. What about predestination, if God has already chosen who the fallen will be, is that the same idea? I am a little confused by your last statement, that we can never come out of our own body, I would love to know more about what you mean. But really great post all around!
Nicole Nelson on Recapitulation Theory and the Fall
10:32 am, 11.03.13
Jessica,
I am very intrigued by your post. I don’t know a lot about the Recapitulation Theory besides the basic definition, but I don’t think I would have immediately associated this idea with the fall. But your post gave me a very nice insight to this different perspective. I think it is interesting how you talk about the fact that since we are fallen, we cannot escape the past. Does this mean that because of Adam and Eve sinning we are never able to be near God again? And are children naturally born with cruelty would you say? And if they are, is this because their parents before them sinned? Otherwise why would God create a naturally cruel being? I get what you are saying, but I am slightly confused by the comment about the cruelty of a child. I do completely agree when you talk about sin causing us to be separated from God, but doe this only last until we are in heaven? Because I like to believe that once we reach heaven the evil desires of our soul will completely disappear. Great post!
Nicole Nelson on In[Klein]ed to Fall
10:27 am, 11.03.13
Jacey,
I really like your post! It’s interesting that you chose to align Klein with the Fall. I think I automatically would have put in her in the category of Creation just because of her emphasis on children, she has to believe that there is something deeper behind their creation, and all the intricacies of chidden. But after reading your post I very much agree with what you have to say. It is interesting how you talk about the experience of the baby, who is it that determines what this experience is like. It really got me thinking. It’s interesting that Klein assumed that if one stage of childhood is disturbed than all the rest of that child’s life will be ruined. I think that right there really speaks to the fall. Great post!
Nicole Nelson on Maslow and Redemption
11:45 pm, 12.04.13
Hillary,
I really like how you make the connection between Maslow and redemption! I think it is very true that we as humans cannot realize our full potential until God is thrown into the mix. And I love how you talk about self-actualization being a process that is discovered through God. I think many of the psychologists we have talked about have focused so much on self-actualization as a personal exploration and something we must discover for our selves. But ultimately since God created us, he is the only one who knows our true self. He is the only one who can help us achieve true self-actualization. Great post!
Nicole Nelson on Recapitulation Theory and the Fall
2:32 pm, 11.03.13
Fantastic response! Thanks so much!!